fix typo: linux #3325

pepebotella · 2023-01-16T19:15:47+01:00

pepebotella commented

2023-01-16 19:15:47 +01:00

GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games.

GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the GNU/Linux operating system. GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many call it “Linux” by mistake.

GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games. GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the [GNU/Linux operating system](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html). GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many [call it “Linux” by mistake](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html).

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pepebotella added 1 commit 2023-01-16 19:15:53 +01:00

e629c35902 linux is not an operating system

FossFanatic commented

2023-01-16 19:22:04 +01:00

Please put GNU/ in between parentheses to be (GNU/), because not every Linux is a GNU/Linux.

Alpine Linux, for example, is not GNU/Linux.

Please put `GNU/` in between parentheses to be `(GNU/)`, because not every Linux is a GNU/Linux. Alpine Linux, for example, is not GNU/Linux.

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kabou commented

2023-01-16 19:40:45 +01:00

The "GNU/Linux" shibboleth is really an FSF thing, distinguishing the True Faithful from the Impure.
On actual "linux" installations, the amount of true GNU software, ie. software that the FSF holds the sole ownership of, is only a minor part. It may have been different in the days of linux 1.2.13, but that is a thing of the past.
Ever heard of FreeBSD? Minetest runs on it.
In 3 of the 4 files that the patchset changes, it changes only a comment. A comment that should be removed anyway, since the last time I tested it, the comment was wrong.

If you must change the wording in minetest.conf, please change "linux" to "unix-like systems such as linux and freebsd".

1. The "GNU/Linux" shibboleth is really an FSF thing, distinguishing the True Faithful from the Impure. 2. On actual "linux" installations, the amount of true GNU software, ie. software that the FSF holds the sole ownership of, is only a minor part. It may have been different in the days of linux 1.2.13, but that is a thing of the past. 3. Ever heard of FreeBSD? Minetest runs on it. 4. In 3 of the 4 files that the patchset changes, it changes only a comment. A comment that should be removed anyway, since the last time I tested it, the comment was wrong. If you must change the wording in minetest.conf, please change "linux" to "unix-like systems such as linux and freebsd".

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kneekoo commented

2023-01-17 12:08:27 +01:00

GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the GNU/Linux operating system. GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many call it “Linux” by mistake.

Context matters. In our context, "Linux" is just an encompassing term for Linux-based operating systems. The same goes for "Windows", which is called as such without pointing out at a specific version.

As previously mentioned, not all Linux distros are GNU/Linux distros. And to be fair, most are indeed GNU/Linux. But also to be fair, if you want to go technical, neither GNU or Linux are operating systems. They can make operating systems together, but alone they're just mandatory parts of a general purpose operating system.

> GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the [GNU/Linux operating system](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html). GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many [call it “Linux” by mistake](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html). Context matters. In our context, "Linux" is just an encompassing term for Linux-based operating systems. The same goes for "Windows", which is called as such without pointing out at a specific version. As previously mentioned, not all Linux distros are GNU/Linux distros. And to be fair, most are indeed GNU/Linux. But also to be fair, if you want to go technical, neither GNU or Linux are operating systems. They can make operating systems together, but alone they're just mandatory parts of a general purpose operating system.

ancientmarinerdev commented

2023-01-17 14:34:39 +01:00

GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the GNU/Linux operating system. GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many call it “Linux” by mistake.

Context matters. In our context, "Linux" is just an encompassing term for Linux-based operating systems. The same goes for "Windows", which is called as such without pointing out at a specific version.

As previously mentioned, not all Linux distros are GNU/Linux distros. And to be fair, most are indeed GNU/Linux. But also to be fair, if you want to go technical, neither GNU or Linux are operating systems. They can make operating systems together, but alone they're just mandatory parts of a general purpose operating system.

And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE.

Linux is just a easy way to say a Linux based operating system that will likely contain GNU.

> > GNU is typically used with a kernel called Linux. This combination is the [GNU/Linux operating system](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html). GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many [call it “Linux” by mistake](https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html). > > Context matters. In our context, "Linux" is just an encompassing term for Linux-based operating systems. The same goes for "Windows", which is called as such without pointing out at a specific version. > > As previously mentioned, not all Linux distros are GNU/Linux distros. And to be fair, most are indeed GNU/Linux. But also to be fair, if you want to go technical, neither GNU or Linux are operating systems. They can make operating systems together, but alone they're just mandatory parts of a general purpose operating system. And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE. Linux is just a easy way to say a Linux based operating system that will likely contain GNU.

kneekoo commented

2023-01-17 15:34:36 +01:00

And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE.

GNU and Linux are the common denominator, and they make an operating system. That's enough, and it's why there's no need to bring in the init system, boot loader, graphical server, window manager, desktop environment, etc.

And as I was about to say that I'm fine with this PR, I thought I should check if Minetest exists on Alpine Linux in the first place. It does, even up to date, so this PR is actually invalid, as we should indeed cover all Linux-based operating systems.

This can be closed, in my opinion.

> And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE. GNU and Linux are the common denominator, and they make an operating system. That's enough, and it's why there's no need to bring in the init system, boot loader, graphical server, window manager, desktop environment, etc. And as I was about to say that I'm fine with this PR, I thought I should check if [Minetest exists on Alpine Linux](https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/minetest) in the first place. It does, even up to date, so this PR is actually invalid, as we should indeed cover all Linux-based operating systems. This can be closed, in my opinion.

ancientmarinerdev commented

2023-01-22 01:47:30 +01:00

And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE.

GNU and Linux are the common denominator, and they make an operating system. That's enough, and it's why there's no need to bring in the init system, boot loader, graphical server, window manager, desktop environment, etc.

And as I was about to say that I'm fine with this PR, I thought I should check if Minetest exists on Alpine Linux in the first place. It does, even up to date, so this PR is actually invalid, as we should indeed cover all Linux-based operating systems.

This can be closed, in my opinion.

I cannot disagree with this point.

I don't think this adds anything, and it isn't technically correct.

Sorry buddy.

> > And where do you draw the division now? It could actually be GNU/Linux/SystemD/KDE. > > GNU and Linux are the common denominator, and they make an operating system. That's enough, and it's why there's no need to bring in the init system, boot loader, graphical server, window manager, desktop environment, etc. > > And as I was about to say that I'm fine with this PR, I thought I should check if [Minetest exists on Alpine Linux](https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/minetest) in the first place. It does, even up to date, so this PR is actually invalid, as we should indeed cover all Linux-based operating systems. > > This can be closed, in my opinion. I cannot disagree with this point. I don't think this adds anything, and it isn't technically correct. Sorry buddy.

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2023-01-22 01:48:02 +01:00