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Better player spawning algorithm #515

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opened 2019-03-13 07:08:11 +01:00 by Wuzzy · 20 comments
Wuzzy commented 2019-03-13 07:08:11 +01:00
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The engine spawning algorithm can sometimes put the player in harsh areas, like a mesa biome, stone beach or very mountainous terrain. Sometimes the mapgen's a real bitch and encloses you between huge cliffs from which it's hard to escape.

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  • Spawn in friendly biomes only (can adopt MTG's spawn mod from 5.0.0)
  • Figure out a way to prevent spawning in holes
The engine spawning algorithm can sometimes put the player in harsh areas, like a mesa biome, stone beach or very mountainous terrain. Sometimes the mapgen's a real bitch and encloses you between huge cliffs from which it's hard to escape. TODO: * Spawn in friendly biomes only (can adopt MTG's `spawn` mod from 5.0.0) * Figure out a way to prevent spawning in holes
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Ghost commented 2019-03-13 13:14:49 +01:00
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About the TODO, maybe these will be of some help:

Subterrane's cavern spawning, it doesn't always work (sometimes it places the player into a 1x1x1 hole) but it's a start worth to be looked at:
https://github.com/minetest-mods/subterrane/blob/master/player_spawn.lua

G.M.A. mobs' space check, I've developed it to prevent mobs spawning into 1x1x1 holes:
https://git.minetest.land/Hamlet/gma/src/branch/master/functions/functions_generic.lua#L79

About the TODO, maybe these will be of some help: Subterrane's cavern spawning, it doesn't always work (sometimes it places the player into a 1x1x1 hole) but it's a start worth to be looked at: https://github.com/minetest-mods/subterrane/blob/master/player_spawn.lua G.M.A. mobs' space check, I've developed it to prevent mobs spawning into 1x1x1 holes: https://git.minetest.land/Hamlet/gma/src/branch/master/functions/functions_generic.lua#L79
Wuzzy commented 2019-03-14 08:18:37 +01:00
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About hole spawning, paramat just posted a PR for Minetest to fix this. Yeah, its probably better be fixed in the engine. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/8374

You seem to don't understand what I mean with hole spawning. I mean areas in mapgen in which you are surrounded by giant cliffs in all directions and it's hard or impossible to escape. My mcl_mobs code already prevents spawning in tiny areas, that was entirely unrelated.

So that leave me only with the biome spawn, which is basically already a solved problem, I just have to adopt the MTG code.

About hole spawning, paramat just posted a PR for Minetest to fix this. Yeah, its probably better be fixed in the engine. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/8374 You seem to don't understand what I mean with hole spawning. I mean areas in mapgen in which you are surrounded by giant cliffs in all directions and it's hard or impossible to escape. My `mcl_mobs` code already prevents spawning in tiny areas, that was entirely unrelated. So that leave me only with the biome spawn, which is basically already a solved problem, I just have to adopt the MTG code.
NoctisLabs commented 2019-09-22 19:42:29 +02:00
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Sometimes the player can spawn in a dangerous area, like midair above a cave/ravine where you can fall to your death.

Sometimes the player can spawn in a dangerous area, like midair above a cave/ravine where you can fall to your death.
Wuzzy commented 2019-09-24 17:35:48 +02:00
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like midair above a cave/ravine where you can fall to your death.

Huh? In >7 years of playing Minetest, I never ever spawned above a cave in any game ever. Wow. This sounds like one of those “happens once every 5 years” bugs … 😀

Do you know the seed (and mapgen type) of the map in which this happened? It's VERY important to know the seed for reporting any mapgen-related bugs. If you still have the map in which this happened, just press F5 (debug screen key).

> like midair above a cave/ravine where you can fall to your death. Huh? In >7 years of playing Minetest, I never ever spawned above a cave in any game ever. Wow. This sounds like one of those “happens once every 5 years” bugs … :grinning: Do you know the seed (and mapgen type) of the map in which this happened? It's VERY important to know the seed for reporting any mapgen-related bugs. If you still have the map in which this happened, just press F5 (debug screen key).
NoctisLabs commented 2019-09-26 02:09:25 +02:00
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As far as a seed where this happens, try simply "0" without quotes. The spawn is random but if you keep respawning you'll eventually fall into a cave and get fall damaged. Mapgen is v7.

As far as a seed where this happens, try simply "0" without quotes. The spawn is random but if you keep respawning you'll eventually fall into a cave and get fall damaged. Mapgen is v7.
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kay27 commented 2020-09-10 23:16:19 +02:00
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Hi,

If it's still actual, there's now a function good_for_respawn(pos). It must return false for places unsuitable for respawn.

If it's still actual, I think why not to call it here?

But I didn't experience the bug, have no Idea how to reproduce it, so I'm just asking.

Hi, If it's still actual, there's now a function [```good_for_respawn(pos)```](https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_spawn/init.lua#L113). It must return false for places unsuitable for respawn. If it's still actual, I think why not to call it [here](https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_spawn/init.lua#L37)? But I didn't experience the bug, have no Idea how to reproduce it, so I'm just asking.
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kay27 commented 2021-01-10 01:54:24 +01:00
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I've added a fix to my fork

1edf86446f

It is tested with different mapgens and I didn't see bugs with it for now.

Hope it fixes Wuzzy/MineClone2#972 too.

I've added a fix to my fork https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/1edf86446fe89a3c3d46b0633f92f481b5207490 It is tested with different mapgens and I didn't see bugs with it for now. Hope it fixes https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/issues/972 too.
kay27 commented 2021-01-12 02:12:35 +01:00
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Of course that was not enough, so I added area emerging and check the position for safety:
b32ce87979

And checked if there are some trees near the point, and a bit polished the code:
6d37bee8d4

If someone breaks respawn point - in next 30 seconds the game now finds the new one.

Testing needed, I'm testing it on RG Server - there were dangerous biomes by default, kay27.ignorelist.com:30002. Other my servers still use static_spawnpoint.

I plan to save respawn point into mod storage for further use after server restart

Of course that was not enough, so I added area emerging and check the position for safety: https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/b32ce87979fa8de6df694ea9a7ee0ad5d6fcb19c And checked if there are some trees near the point, and a bit polished the code: https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/6d37bee8d4fa67b4341f409df253b4aa41bccbcc If someone breaks respawn point - in next 30 seconds the game now finds the new one. Testing needed, I'm testing it on RG Server - there were dangerous biomes by default, kay27.ignorelist.com:30002. Other my servers still use static_spawnpoint. I plan to save respawn point into mod storage for further use after server restart
kay27 commented 2021-01-12 18:38:59 +01:00
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Mod storage supported

29cccb67ab

I think we may close the issue

Merging - that's the question :)

(4 commits: 1edf86446f, b32ce87979, 6d37bee8d4, 29cccb67ab)

Mod storage supported https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/29cccb67ab3e04dad984a4f4dbc599a7822bd14c I think we may close the issue Merging - that's the question :) (4 commits: https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/1edf86446fe89a3c3d46b0633f92f481b5207490, https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/b32ce87979fa8de6df694ea9a7ee0ad5d6fcb19c, https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/6d37bee8d4fa67b4341f409df253b4aa41bccbcc, https://git.minetest.land/kay27/MineClone2/commit/29cccb67ab3e04dad984a4f4dbc599a7822bd14c)
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kay27 commented 2021-01-16 15:55:11 +01:00
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Merged fe33f172d4

Merged https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/commit/fe33f172d4e72277082d78e0dc7c6268269fd1ca
kneekoo commented 2021-03-16 18:29:36 +01:00
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@kay We have several issues here.

  • player spawn not on grass, no vegetation around either
  • player spawning pretty high up in the air (I took 11 damage by falling)
  • ABM issues that are weird for a local game, considering the hardware can handle the game nicely
  • emerge error
  • dungeons are placed far from the player: why? I stayed where I fell (86,4.015,24) and this was generated at (-316,-15,-42), which is over 400 blocks away
  • more world spawn weirdness

seed: 404
mapgen: v7 with all options enabled
MC2: master-2021-03-13-8115575f20

2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: health
2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: breath
2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: hunger
2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: armor
2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: [mcl_weather] No weather data found. Starting with clear weather.
2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: [mcl_skins] Mod initialized with 1 custom skin(s)
2021-03-16 16:17:55: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/nicu/.minetest/worlds/404-test]
2021-03-16 16:17:55: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="mineclone2" listening on 0.0.0.0:50118.
2021-03-16 16:17:59: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer [127.0.0.1] joins game. List of players: singleplayer
2021-03-16 16:17:59: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_skins] Player skin for singleplayer set to skin #1
>>> 2021-03-16 16:18:01: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer damaged by 11 hp at (86,4.015,24)
2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (9,-7,74)
2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-9,-38,49)
2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (165,-44,106)
2021-03-16 16:18:03: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (29,-39,7)
2021-03-16 16:18:06: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (129,-18,150)
2021-03-16 16:18:06: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (178,-13,181)
2021-03-16 16:18:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] Suitable biomes found: 16
2021-03-16 16:18:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] Started world spawn point search
2021-03-16 16:18:27: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-154,-15,30)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:18:30: ERROR[Emerge-0]: EmergeThread::finishGen: Couldn't grab block we just generated: (6,8,13)
2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (108,18,219)
2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (101,-23,225)
2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (90,0,262)
2021-03-16 16:18:33: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-230,-19,211)
2021-03-16 16:18:34: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-284,-8,156)
2021-03-16 16:18:36: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-316,-15,-42)
2021-03-16 16:18:37: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:18:39: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 470 of 485 active blocks)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:18:55: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 484 of 485 active blocks)
2021-03-16 16:18:55: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170)
2021-03-16 16:18:55: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees)
2021-03-16 16:19:10: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:enderman at (118,-43.5,9)
2021-03-16 16:19:21: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:zombie at (69,-41.5,71)
2021-03-16 16:19:21: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 466 of 485 active blocks)
2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:bat at (38,-27.5,15)
2021-03-16 16:19:25: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 439 of 485 active blocks)
2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170)
2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:19:35: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 444 of 485 active blocks)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:19:43: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 448 of 485 active blocks)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:19:45: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 464 of 485 active blocks)
>>> 2021-03-16 16:19:51: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 485 of 485 active blocks)
2021-03-16 16:19:55: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170)
2021-03-16 16:19:55: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees)
2021-03-16 16:20:05: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 456 of 485 active blocks)
2021-03-16 16:20:12: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:slime_tiny at (89,-50.5,28)
2021-03-16 16:20:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170)
2021-03-16 16:20:25: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees)
@kay We have several issues here. - player spawn not on grass, no vegetation around either - player spawning pretty high up in the air (I took 11 damage by falling) - ABM issues that are weird for a local game, considering the hardware can handle the game nicely - emerge error - dungeons are placed far from the player: why? I stayed where I fell (86,4.015,24) and this was generated at (-316,-15,-42), which is over 400 blocks away - more world spawn weirdness seed: 404 mapgen: v7 with all options enabled MC2: master-2021-03-13-8115575f20 ``` 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: health 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: breath 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: hunger 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: hb.register_hudbar: armor 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: [mcl_weather] No weather data found. Starting with clear weather. 2021-03-16 16:17:54: ACTION[Main]: [mcl_skins] Mod initialized with 1 custom skin(s) 2021-03-16 16:17:55: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/nicu/.minetest/worlds/404-test] 2021-03-16 16:17:55: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="mineclone2" listening on 0.0.0.0:50118. 2021-03-16 16:17:59: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer [127.0.0.1] joins game. List of players: singleplayer 2021-03-16 16:17:59: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_skins] Player skin for singleplayer set to skin #1 >>> 2021-03-16 16:18:01: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer damaged by 11 hp at (86,4.015,24) 2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (9,-7,74) 2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-9,-38,49) 2021-03-16 16:18:02: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (165,-44,106) 2021-03-16 16:18:03: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (29,-39,7) 2021-03-16 16:18:06: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (129,-18,150) 2021-03-16 16:18:06: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (178,-13,181) 2021-03-16 16:18:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] Suitable biomes found: 16 2021-03-16 16:18:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] Started world spawn point search 2021-03-16 16:18:27: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-154,-15,30) >>> 2021-03-16 16:18:30: ERROR[Emerge-0]: EmergeThread::finishGen: Couldn't grab block we just generated: (6,8,13) 2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (108,18,219) 2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (101,-23,225) 2021-03-16 16:18:31: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (90,0,262) 2021-03-16 16:18:33: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-230,-19,211) 2021-03-16 16:18:34: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-284,-8,156) 2021-03-16 16:18:36: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_dungeons] Placing new dungeon at (-316,-15,-42) 2021-03-16 16:18:37: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees) >>> 2021-03-16 16:18:39: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 470 of 485 active blocks) >>> 2021-03-16 16:18:55: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 484 of 485 active blocks) 2021-03-16 16:18:55: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170) 2021-03-16 16:18:55: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees) 2021-03-16 16:19:10: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:enderman at (118,-43.5,9) 2021-03-16 16:19:21: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:zombie at (69,-41.5,71) 2021-03-16 16:19:21: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 466 of 485 active blocks) 2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:bat at (38,-27.5,15) 2021-03-16 16:19:25: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 439 of 485 active blocks) 2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170) 2021-03-16 16:19:25: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees) >>> 2021-03-16 16:19:35: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 444 of 485 active blocks) >>> 2021-03-16 16:19:43: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 448 of 485 active blocks) >>> 2021-03-16 16:19:45: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 464 of 485 active blocks) >>> 2021-03-16 16:19:51: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 485 of 485 active blocks) 2021-03-16 16:19:55: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170) 2021-03-16 16:19:55: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees) 2021-03-16 16:20:05: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 51ms (processed 456 of 485 active blocks) 2021-03-16 16:20:12: ACTION[Server]: Mob spawned: mobs_mc:slime_tiny at (89,-50.5,28) 2021-03-16 16:20:25: ACTION[Server]: [mcl_spawn] World spawn position isn't safe anymore: (-85,23,-170) 2021-03-16 16:20:25: ACTION[Emerge-0]: [mcl_spawn] Dynamic world spawn determined to be (-85,23,-170) (no trees) ```
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The next dungeons placed because place searching requires generation of the world. If the world isn’t generated, we can’t check the position, only a biome name, but it wouldn’t be enough to set world respawn position properly. The problems are: at first 30 seconds you still appear where the engine decides, and the position shifts time to time (but then stops). Do I miss the something?

The next dungeons placed because place searching requires generation of the world. If the world isn’t generated, we can’t check the position, only a biome name, but it wouldn’t be enough to set world respawn position properly. The problems are: at first 30 seconds you still appear where the engine decides, and the position shifts time to time (but then stops). Do I miss the something?
kneekoo commented 2021-03-17 04:08:50 +01:00
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  1. The player should only be spawned on a safe surface.
    In this seed I got two spawns up in the air, the second one being even higher than the previous one. This should be looked into.

  2. A trickier issue seems to be spawning the player on grass, like Minecraft does.
    I created probably over 10 worlds with seed 404 (+ all mapgen options enabled) and in all of them I spawned inside a large rocky biome.

  3. The world spawn needs refinement, but low priority.
    I don't see this as a major bug, but at some point it should be fixed because it's obviously wrong about various coords becoming unsafe.

I mentioned the ABM problem in the correct place: #393.

1. The player should only be spawned on a safe surface. In this seed I got two spawns up in the air, the second one being even higher than the previous one. This should be looked into. 2. A trickier issue seems to be [spawning the player on grass](https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Spawn#Player_spawning), like Minecraft does. I created probably over 10 worlds with seed 404 (+ all mapgen options enabled) and in all of them I spawned inside a large rocky biome. 3. The world spawn needs refinement, but low priority. I don't see this as a major bug, but at some point it should be fixed because it's obviously wrong about various coords becoming unsafe. I mentioned the ABM problem in the correct place: #393.
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NO11 commented 2021-03-17 19:59:08 +01:00
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When I spawn 2 players on a local server and there is a large sea nearby, the players can sometimes spawn about 500 blocks apart. Pretty annoying. Is that intentional?

When I spawn 2 players on a local server and there is a large sea nearby, the players can sometimes spawn about 500 blocks apart. Pretty annoying. Is that intentional?
kay27 commented 2021-03-17 23:26:47 +01:00
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I think yes if we don't like to spawn in the sea... Biome search inherited from MTG, I didn't check it well, but position search is mine, I plan to fix the issue with "ignore" nodes which cause restarts of the searching

I think yes if we don't like to spawn in the sea... Biome search inherited from MTG, I didn't check it well, but position search is mine, I plan to fix the issue with "ignore" nodes which cause restarts of the searching
kneekoo commented 2021-12-23 09:32:10 +01:00
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This seed spawns the player in the desert: 2322491872620265674.

The nice thing about this seed's spawning point is that it's close to a savannah and a desert temple.

This seed spawns the player in the desert: 2322491872620265674. The nice thing about this seed's spawning point is that it's close to a savannah and a desert temple.
cora commented 2021-12-23 16:17:33 +01:00
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Try the seed "apple" some time :) - village with funny mapgen weirdness at spawn + 2 or 3 desert temples iirc.

Try the seed "apple" some time :) - village with funny mapgen weirdness at spawn + 2 or 3 desert temples iirc.
erle commented 2022-01-22 14:43:50 +01:00
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Sometimes the mapgen's a real bitch and encloses you between huge cliffs from which it's hard to escape.

Try the seed “speedrun” with mapgen v7 to see this in action.

> Sometimes the mapgen's a real bitch and encloses you between huge cliffs from which it's hard to escape. Try the seed “speedrun” with mapgen v7 to see this in action.
ancientmarinerdev commented 2023-02-02 02:06:47 +01:00
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If you're speedrunning achievements, 2052 is good. You spawn in a tree at least 50% of the time, so you have the getting wood achievement pretty quick if you want to survive.

If you're speedrunning achievements, 2052 is good. You spawn in a tree at least 50% of the time, so you have the getting wood achievement pretty quick if you want to survive.
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