Use Weblate for collaborative translation #552

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tuxayo · 2019-08-12T12:20:51+02:00

tuxayo commented

2019-08-12 12:20:51 +02:00

Hi, thanks a lot for this ~~mod~~ game :)

https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/minetest/minetest/

Before speaking about implementation, technical details and human resources, is the general idea ok?

Hi, thanks a lot for this ~~mod~~ game :) https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/minetest/minetest/ Before speaking about implementation, technical details and human resources, is the general idea ok?

tuxayo changed title from ~~Suggestion: use Weblate for collaborative translation. (like Minetest)~~ to Suggestion: use Weblate for collaborative translation (like Minetest)

2019-08-12 12:21:02 +02:00

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Wuzzy commented

2019-08-15 02:50:08 +02:00

First of all: MineClone 2 is NOT a mod!!! It's a game. That's a huge difference!

About Weblate:

I agree completely. I just need to get around to do it.
Sadly, it's not trivial to do so because Minetest uses a weird file format for translations that needs to be converted to something that Weblate understands.

So making Weblate work will require quite some work.

First of all: MineClone 2 is NOT a mod!!! It's a game. That's a huge difference! About Weblate: I agree completely. I just need to get around to do it. Sadly, it's not trivial to do so because Minetest uses a weird file format for translations that needs to be converted to something that Weblate understands. So making Weblate work will require quite some work.

Wuzzy changed title from ~~Suggestion: use Weblate for collaborative translation (like Minetest)~~ to Use Weblate for collaborative translation

2019-08-15 03:09:59 +02:00

tuxayo commented

2019-08-16 10:59:25 +02:00

First of all: MineClone 2 is NOT a mod!!! It’s a game. That’s a huge difference!

Edited to fix the mistake. Sorry to have ruined what should have been a compliment ^^"

> First of all: MineClone 2 is NOT a mod!!! It’s a game. That’s a huge difference! Edited to fix the mistake. Sorry to have ruined what should have been a compliment ^^"

tuxayo commented

2019-08-16 11:00:24 +02:00

Thanks for the green light about Weblate, and for the giving an entry point for someone willing to look into this.

tacotexmex commented

2019-08-19 10:09:13 +02:00

Is creating a two-way converter between an established format that Weblate accepts and the weird Minetest format feasible? Is the MT formate completely homegrown?

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Wuzzy commented

2019-08-27 22:08:41 +02:00

Yes, the MT format is (sadly) homegrown.
Yes, a converter would be nice. I'd recommend to use the PO format as reference, as it's well tried-and-tested.

If you create anything useful, I also strongly recommend to post about it in the forums because this will be important to the entire Minetest community, not just MCL2.

Yes, the MT format is (sadly) homegrown. Yes, a converter would be nice. I'd recommend to use the PO format as reference, as it's well tried-and-tested. If you create anything useful, I also strongly recommend to post about it in the forums because this will be important to the entire Minetest community, not just MCL2.

kneekoo commented

2020-02-19 14:53:18 +01:00

According to the following wiki page, Minetest now has a new i18n library based on gettext:
https://wiki.minetest.net/Mods/Internationalization_Lib_for_Minetest

Here's a rudimentary JavaScript converter that you can test in your browser: https://output.jsbin.com/qihusix

By the way, I tested these two files in /mineclone2/mods/PLAYER/mcl_hunger/locale/

mcl_hunger.de.tr
mcl_hunger.es.tr

... and the last line looks buggy to me. Isn't the first thing supposed to be @1 instead of %1 in the translation?

@1 starved to death.=%1 verhungerte.

If you find translations that don't get properly converted to gettext, let me know. I used the gettext syntax provided here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html

According to the following wiki page, Minetest now has a new i18n library based on gettext: https://wiki.minetest.net/Mods/Internationalization_Lib_for_Minetest Here's a rudimentary JavaScript converter that you can test in your browser: https://output.jsbin.com/qihusix By the way, I tested these two files in **/mineclone2/mods/PLAYER/mcl_hunger/locale/** - mcl_hunger.de.tr - mcl_hunger.es.tr ... and the last line looks buggy to me. Isn't the first thing supposed to be `@1` instead of `%1` in the translation? > `@1 starved to death.=%1 verhungerte.` If you find translations that don't get properly converted to gettext, let me know. I used the gettext syntax provided here: https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html

Wuzzy commented

2020-02-19 15:07:06 +01:00

intllib is not new, it's a legacy mod, as Minetest uses its own translation system since 5.0.0. The major downside of intllib is that it forces the same language on all players on a server.

Switching to intllib is NOT a solution.

I do agree, however, that Minetest must switch to Gettext PO format. Or at least provide a functional toolchain.

`intllib` is not new, it's a legacy mod, as Minetest uses its own translation system since 5.0.0. The major downside of `intllib` is that it forces the same language on all players on a server. Switching to `intllib` is NOT a solution. I do agree, however, that Minetest must switch to Gettext PO format. Or at least provide a functional toolchain.

kneekoo commented

2020-02-19 16:29:48 +01:00

What about the translations I mentioned? That looks incorrect to me.

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Wuzzy commented

2020-02-19 17:09:02 +01:00

Oh, the mcl_hunger thing? Oops, right, I forgot that. Thanks, is fixed now.

Oh, the `mcl_hunger` thing? Oops, right, I forgot that. Thanks, is fixed now.

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