Piglin don't honour enchanted gold armour #3165

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Preass · 2022-12-22T14:01:07+01:00

Preass commented

2022-12-22 14:01:07 +01:00

Piglin brute ignores gold armor making nether harder.

kneekoo commented

2022-12-22 14:11:51 +01:00

We need both piglins and piglin brutes. We just don't have brutes at this moment.

Preass commented

2022-12-22 14:25:14 +01:00

I'm being attacked by piglin brutes (with axe) instead of piglin with swords. Normally piglin brutes are in bastion remnants not in forests.

Preass commented

2022-12-22 14:28:33 +01:00

To clarify, the problem is piglin brutes ignore gold armor. Normal piglins don't attack if you have gold armor.

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kneekoo commented

2022-12-22 14:38:50 +01:00

Oh, I see we do have piglin brutes - added 2 months ago. Then we'll need to make them spawn them in Nether bulwarks.

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CableGuy67 commented

2022-12-22 15:18:43 +01:00

This is actually a big hassle since the Brutes are so agressive. It makes normal exploring in the nether (for example to find the nether fortresses for the blaze spawner) very very difficult.

Preass commented

2022-12-22 15:19:46 +01:00

In creative I now see a sword piglin. I may be mistaken a sword for axe because I am swarmed in survival. Still don't know why I'm attacked when I have gold armor but closing this issue now.

Preass commented

2022-12-22 15:21:00 +01:00

Wait cableguy67 so there is actually a piglin brute bug? Okay not closing this issue now.

CableGuy67 commented

2022-12-22 17:15:17 +01:00

Yeah the Brutes are everywhere. The ones dressed in red that show up usually in a pair with a hoglin. They are so common that I've taken to dropping a block in my 1x2 tunnels every so often to keep them from running up on me while nether exploring. And in the crimson forest...oof, yeah. Way too many showing up.

Preass commented

2022-12-22 19:25:24 +01:00

I thought I saw a piglin with an axe, thank you for confirming. The issue is not piglin brute replaced sword piglin but can spawn together with.

Michieal changed title from ~~Piglin brute spawn instead of sword piglin~~ to Piglin brute spawns with sword piglins.

2022-12-22 19:40:34 +01:00

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CableGuy67 commented

2022-12-23 17:12:13 +01:00

Yeah the Brutes are everywhere. The ones dressed in red that show up usually in a pair with a hoglin. They are so common that I've taken to dropping a block in my 1x2 tunnels every so often to keep them from running up on me while nether exploring. And in the crimson forest...oof, yeah. Way too many showing up.

I was mistaken about this. The red ones are piglins based on the extra_mobs_piglin.png image. They are just acting like brutes in that that will attack once you get within range even if you haven't done anything to provoke them.

> Yeah the Brutes are everywhere. The ones dressed in red that show up usually in a pair with a hoglin. They are so common that I've taken to dropping a block in my 1x2 tunnels every so often to keep them from running up on me while nether exploring. And in the crimson forest...oof, yeah. Way too many showing up. I was mistaken about this. The red ones are piglins based on the extra_mobs_piglin.png image. They are just acting like brutes in that that will attack once you get within range even if you haven't done anything to provoke them.

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Michieal commented

2022-12-23 18:27:28 +01:00

They are just acting like brutes in that that will attack once you get within range even if you haven't done anything to provoke them.

Now that, is a bug.

> They are just acting like brutes in that that will attack once you get within range even if you haven't done anything to provoke them. Now that, is a bug.

ancientmarinerdev added this to the 0.83.0 - Safe and Sound milestone 2023-01-23 15:13:17 +01:00

ancientmarinerdev modified the milestone from 0.83.0 - Safe and Sound to 3 - Near future

2023-03-09 18:23:15 +01:00

ancientmarinerdev commented

2023-03-20 20:57:12 +01:00

Ok, this has been bugging (no pun intended) me for a while.

Piglin brute's are not the issue as they don't spawn naturally.

Piglin, and sword Piglin do spawn, but they respect gold. The issue, I think, is zombie pigman(/piglin, I mean what is actually the correct terminology, are pigman no longer in the game?). That is supposed to be a neutral mob, but I do not think is working that way at present.

I haven't done any testing yet, but this is what the code is suggesting.

Striders seem to annoy them too.

Ok, this has been bugging (no pun intended) me for a while. Piglin brute's are not the issue as they don't spawn naturally. Piglin, and sword Piglin do spawn, but they respect gold. The issue, I think, is zombie pigman(/piglin, I mean what is actually the correct terminology, are pigman no longer in the game?). That is supposed to be a neutral mob, but I do not think is working that way at present. I haven't done any testing yet, but this is what the code is suggesting. Striders seem to annoy them too.

ancientmarinerdev modified the milestone from 3 - Near future to 0.84.0 - Very Nice

2023-03-21 03:20:01 +01:00

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Michieal commented

2023-03-31 15:33:55 +02:00

As far as I know, they are still zombie pigmen, or pigmen... The last time I looked at this, the issue was that all piglins would attack you, and that made being in the Nether an absolute nightmare. Oh, and trying to use gold to distract them while you are wearing gold armor (with its crappy armor values) didn't work and usually got you killed.

Piglins are supposed to be neutral unless:

you're not wearing gold,
you open a chest, barrel, etc.,
you mine gold or gilded blackstone,
you attack a piglin.

The zombie pigmen are neutral until you attack one of them. Then they come out of the woodwork, and from miles around, to take you down. (I've had one attack me two minutes~ish later in MC JE 1.19.3... much longer than even the aggro of a piglin lasts.)

Piglin brutes (the ones with axes) will attack you, regardless, on sight... which usually gets the rest of the piglins in a 16 block radius riled up, so long as they have LOS.

But, if I remember correctly, the Piglin with Swords basically acted like Piglin Brutes, and would just come at you... (I have had that experience with Mcl2 Nether... while gold'd up.)

As far as I know, they are still zombie pigmen, or pigmen... The last time I looked at this, the issue was that all piglins would attack you, and that made being in the Nether an absolute nightmare. Oh, and trying to use gold to distract them while you are wearing gold armor (with its crappy armor values) didn't work and usually got you killed. Piglins are supposed to be neutral unless: 1) you're not wearing gold, 2) you open a chest, barrel, etc., 3) you mine gold or gilded blackstone, 4) you attack a piglin. The zombie pigmen are neutral until you attack one of them. Then they come out of the woodwork, and from miles around, to take you down. (I've had one attack me two minutes~ish later in MC JE 1.19.3... much longer than even the aggro of a piglin lasts.) Piglin brutes (the ones with axes) will attack you, regardless, on sight... which usually gets the rest of the piglins in a 16 block radius riled up, so long as they have LOS. But, if I remember correctly, the Piglin with Swords basically acted like Piglin Brutes, and would just come at you... (I have had that experience with Mcl2 Nether... while gold'd up.)

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kneekoo commented

2023-05-06 19:39:03 +02:00

When spawning piglin brutes from eggs, they will wield a golden axe, like they should. The bug is now that when you kill them, they will drop (by chance) a crossbow instead of their golden axe.

ancientmarinerdev commented

2023-05-08 20:17:05 +02:00

I think the bug here is that they honour gold armour, but not enchanted gold armour. It does an exact match on the string, and the name is different for both.

Can anyone confirm this that had this bug? @Michieal @Preass ?

I think the bug here is that they honour gold armour, but not enchanted gold armour. It does an exact match on the string, and the name is different for both. Can anyone confirm this that had this bug? @Michieal @Preass ?

ancientmarinerdev changed title from ~~Piglin brute spawns with sword piglins.~~ to Piglin don't honour enchanted gold armour

2023-05-09 16:09:21 +02:00

ancientmarinerdev referenced this issue

2023-05-09 16:15:55 +02:00

Zombie pigmen attacks if you are fighting other mobs #3166

ancientmarinerdev commented

2023-05-09 16:18:27 +02:00

When spawning piglin brutes from eggs, they will wield a golden axe, like they should. The bug is now that when you kill them, they will drop (by chance) a crossbow instead of their golden axe.

This is a separate bug that needs a separate ticket.

I would ask we don't put low priority bugs in high priority tickets. Dying with a different weapon is a superficial issue. Getting massacred in the nether and losing all your shit is rage inducing and makes the game too brutal to play.

It makes tickets impossible to close and detail to get lost. We cannot effectively prioritise stuff if we don't know what a ticket is actually about.

> When spawning piglin brutes from eggs, they will wield a golden axe, like they should. The bug is now that when you kill them, they will drop (by chance) a crossbow instead of their golden axe. This is a separate bug that needs a separate ticket. I would ask we don't put low priority bugs in high priority tickets. Dying with a different weapon is a superficial issue. Getting massacred in the nether and losing all your shit is rage inducing and makes the game too brutal to play. It makes tickets impossible to close and detail to get lost. We cannot effectively prioritise stuff if we don't know what a ticket is actually about.

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ancientmarinerdev referenced a pull request that will close this issue

2023-05-11 02:19:05 +02:00

Piglins no longer aggro for enchanted gold armour #3713

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2023-05-13 00:30:54 +02:00

Michieal commented

2023-06-09 04:45:03 +02:00

I think the bug here is that they honour gold armour, but not enchanted gold armour. It does an exact match on the string, and the name is different for both.

Can anyone confirm this that had this bug? @Michieal @Preass ?

Sorry that I missed this -- Piglin Brutes never honor gold armor. You can walk into a bastion decked out head to toe in gold, and the Piglin Brutes will attack you. Once you defend yourself, the other piglins will attack you for attacking a Piglin. That is intended behavior, because otherwise a Bastion would offer no challenge.

I've not been back to the nether in Mineclone, as the last time I was there, everything and its brother attacked me right after I spawned in.

> I think the bug here is that they honour gold armour, but not enchanted gold armour. It does an exact match on the string, and the name is different for both. > > Can anyone confirm this that had this bug? @Michieal @Preass ? Sorry that I missed this -- Piglin Brutes *never* honor gold armor. You can walk into a bastion decked out head to toe in gold, and the Piglin Brutes will attack you. Once you defend yourself, the other piglins will attack you for attacking a Piglin. That is intended behavior, because otherwise a Bastion would offer no challenge. I've not been back to the nether in Mineclone, as the last time I was there, everything and its brother attacked me right after I spawned in.

Michieal commented

2023-06-09 04:46:54 +02:00

Piglin brute ignores gold armor making nether harder.

This -- is specifically a "Working as Intended" aspect. Though, Piglin Brutes should Never spawn outside of a bastion structure.

> Piglin brute ignores gold armor making nether harder. This -- is specifically a "Working as Intended" aspect. Though, Piglin Brutes should Never spawn outside of a bastion structure.

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